in my psychology studies we've been examining the use of "labels" and how they influence peoples behaviour.
i sometimes wonder if the gb or their helpers know exactly what they're doing when it comes to psychological manipulation.. it's been observed that by labeling someone or something it changes your entire perception of that person or thing.
it colours it entirely, quite unfairly in some cases.
You'd be surprised at how many high level people are sociopaths and psychopaths. Get a few running the show behind the scenes and you have a religion that allows people to die of blood loss. Without remorse.
The GB are just being used by them. I see the GB as people who love themselves more than anything. They enjoy the perks of being worshiped, lots of good eating and more than all else, the feeling they get from being in the exclusive club of going to heaven to be with their "big" brother.
in my psychology studies we've been examining the use of "labels" and how they influence peoples behaviour.
i sometimes wonder if the gb or their helpers know exactly what they're doing when it comes to psychological manipulation.. it's been observed that by labeling someone or something it changes your entire perception of that person or thing.
it colours it entirely, quite unfairly in some cases.
Using labels is used by many to obtain an objective. In Nazi Germany, "dirty Jews" was used to dehumanize them and make it easier for Hitler to use them as a scapegoat.
The WT does know how to use it to. Whether it's the GB or the ones that run the show in the background - they've used it to destroy the credibility of anyone that has learned the truth about them and the organization.
I wonder how many JW's use labels in everyday life? My sister does. She uses it to elevate herself over others. So does another "anointed" sister. While driving by a trailer park, she would say it was full of "trailer trash". Funny how things turn out tho - she now lives in one and would be furious if she was called "trailer trash" But if the WT uses labels, then some that follow, would also be comfortable doing it too.
My favorite "apostate" talk said this "they work in satan's kitchen making ecoli burgers" meaning deadly burgers.
LOL Heap it on Satan's little helpers = GB (oh no! I labeled them)
the meeting today was quite disturbing as usual and had to endure 2 talks by yet another egotistical, pompous co who gives talks like a hardcore southern baptist, but people adore no matter what crazy shit spews from their mouth.
today, he talked about jesus illustration about how if your eye or hand stumbles you, remove it.
he went into gory detail about how somebodies eye ball is pulled out from their head, and what it takes to cut someone’s hand off...perhaps even with a pocketknife...in front of many small children in the audience.
I remember another gruesome talk given around the memorial about how Jesus suffered and all the agony he encountered, step by step when he was stuck on a stake.
How many nightmares is that CO giving young kids? What if the parents tell them they are too young to get baptized? Then they sweat it out, hoping God won't kill them because they have to wait another year? Course, most parents would jump at the chance to have their child be one of the youngest baptized.
(warning, rant ahead) .
so much indoctrination!
one who is battling terminal illness was going on about how jehovah blessed them with a good used trailer years ago when they were homeless.
How difficult a time you must have had. I would be sad over the long years of loss that this lady has had. For me, unless they wanted to know the truth, I'd probably just let them be. Ahhh, so difficult.
are they the most boring people on earth?
their music, their videos, their public speaking... all are a big yawn.
there is no life to the witness religion!.
I think once they leave the hall and go home, the religion is dropped just like the clothes they wear to the meeting. All depending on how invested they are of course.
I suspect the JW lady at work, if not for the religion, would be a jet setter living in hotels and drinking martinis.
https://youtu.be/j3htfvmgr50.
Is the WT still pretending that followers have free will?
i am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.
apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.
luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.
mentalclarity - What you said goes along with an experience I saw on program. A woman from the USA had seen how the lepers were treated in India and wanted to help. She paired up with a UN representative. While they were driving in the city, a woman with leprosy begged outside the car and so the American lady gave her money. The UN lady said, "If you give one more person money like that, you can't be on this team" (or something like that) The reason she stated was "If you give someone something for free, they don't value it" Instead, the two ladies set up a "bank" where money could be loaned to the lepers. At first, only the women in the colony were involved. They took out money and bought sewing machines. When they became successful, the men also started borrowing to start businesses. From hopelessness and poverty, the colony with their own hard work, prospered.
I think the UN lady was right.
us prosecutors are reportedly considering charging 'el chapo' guzman with the killings of 6 us citizens and a dea agent.
"the first killings came on december 2, 1984, when four jehovah's witness missionaries, two men and two women, knocked on the door of a drug lord.
godoy, who was then also working as a body guard for ernesto fonseca, another guadalajara kingpin, said the missionaries were tortured and the women raped.
I remember several times saying to myself "I should go witness to this person. Just because I am afraid of how this person gives me the creeps, I should ignore it and do it" But in the end I wouldn't. I just couldn't make myself cross that intuition.
Now when I see stories like this, I'm mad and sad that the jerks running the organization - in front like the GB or behind the scenes - aren't held responsible for it. Maybe that is why they encourage the carts. Just another sneaky way of slowly extracting themselves from a liability.
Wasn't there another story told by the WT itself, of a sister that did territory by alone and was later found dead, tied up in the trunk of her car? They used it as a warning to not go out without a partner. As if that never would have happened if there were two sisters.....
Good photo shopping!
Haha I could imagine a comedy skit with this. Two sisters manning a JW cart, watch as two more sister appear with their cart. They smile and nod at them.
After the new arrivals are set up proper, they turn and smile at the others. Then one of the JW sisters looks at the display and her mouth drops open. She looks at the other sister, then leans over and whispers in her ear. The other sister looks over and her smile turns crooked. Hurriedly, they pack up their cart and run away.
i am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.
apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.
luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.
Since the shroud of the JW religion has left my eyes, I understand one of the reasons why, the idealist vision of John Lennon and many others have not come true.
People's personalities, their life experiences and even the deficients that they were born with, all have a part in why this world continues to be unequal.
Until I worked for a person like my boss, I wouldn't have realized how harmful working for a greedy, so called Christian psychopath was. And I don't say psychopath lightly. He has and probably will, continue to steal hours, rearrange overtime so that it isn't and generally display actions showing he doesn't care a fig about anyone. I then imagine him the head of a country. Since he has no conscience, people would come last on his list to take care of unless they could provide money or labor for him.
When I look at the leaders of the world, I wonder how many fall into that category. Rich people if they believe in God, probably excuse themselves just like the religious leaders for their lack. Or maybe they did work really hard to come by their money and to give any away, would seem like an injustice to them.
When I was young, I wanted everything to be fair. I was willing to sacrifice for the benefit of others. Now I know, that some of those wanting you to sacrifice for them, are users.
